Houses and Home Ownership


In conclusion, get some kangaroos for that lawn.


I had some small diplomatic success with my new apartment recently. The downstairs neighbour was smoking constantly. The stairwell and my balconies reeked. I’m very prone to conflict avoidance so I put off talking to her, but summer was approaching and I couldn’t keep the windows shut forever.

So I made a giant plate of jam drop cookies and introduced myself. I figured she couldn’t get defensive if I was giving her cookies. Turns out her sense of smell is so fucked by smoking that she didn’t realise she was stinking out the block.

I can now hang my clothes on the balcony and open my windows. It made me glad I took the polite route rather than making a fuss with the body corporate.


Why is it so hard to get plumbers to call back? We are installing new washer/dryer hookups for the walkout basement apartment in our house. The electricians get back to me right away, but the plumbers require multiple calls over several days. Weird.


Everything with plumbing is generally an emergency, so they’re busy.


I get that, but is it that hard to make a phone call for a new customer with a personal referral who makes it clear that while this is the more immediate need that there are other potential jobs, too?


I remember having to call like 5 plumbers the one time I needed one in Beacon. No one I called seemed to give a shit: the thing I needed wasn’t expensive enough to bother…


Yeah, ours could be upwards of $900 just for the one thing, let alone the other jobs - all non-urgent so they could plan them at their leisure.


Plumbers are shitty. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


$900? Man maybe I should quit trying to be a paralegal and become a plumber.


Truthfully, it’s not a bad career choice. It’s safe from automation.


Some tasks are not safe, but overall there will be plumbers longer than most jobs.


Yeah dude, if you can make it through an apprenticeship, most plumbers make mad bank.


My best friend is a plumber and has been working at the local casino now for about 10-12 years, essentially since the day he graduated highschool, minus a year or two of being laid off and working for the contractors. He makes more than I do with my college degree, has decent investments, he got a house something like 5 years ago and is doing pretty well paying that down plus being single and having a room-mate helping out, he’s basically set.

Yeah, you’ll have to deal with literal shit sometimes, (and at the casino apparently you get the seemingly suicidal drunks complaining the toilet is broken because it’s overflowing with god-knows-what.) but the trade-off is most of the time its just working some pipes and pulling out whatever is clogging the works or leaking.

And it’s not like you’re a custodian who has to do the basic routine cleaning and maintenance either; usually things are mostly cleaned up.

Do I want to be a plumber? Fuck naw. But I’ve seen first-hand that it ain’t too bad and will support a good lifestyle.


I’ve only had to deal with a plumber once so far. And that was to replace the outside water faucet. We communicated by email only. Which worked out pretty well.


I’ve heard stories of people who left jobs as web developers to become plumbers because they liked that lifestyle and pay better.


How did they get plumber training?


Same way many trades work - You literally sign on as an apprentice under a plumber. There’s also vocational training schools, but AFAIK you’ll still need to find an apprenticeship at some point, though the schools will often provide some assistance for that.


I used to work at a tech school, they often helped you get an apprentice ship similarly to an internship. You would be graded on working for six months on top of attending classes towards the end of the term. Some people kept it after the term others went to find someone not affiliated with the school for more pay.


This one had a buddy who was a plumber and got him set up with an apprenticeship, etc., kinda like what @Churba said.


In New York, it’s generally controlled by the union (no surprise), and you literally fill out an application to enter Local 1’s apprenticeship program. It’s like applying for school.

This can vary in other places, but that’s a primary route here.