The Lincoln Project

This thread showed up on my Twitter today. It’s a long one, but it breaks everything down pretty thoroughly.

But also this thread that isn’t getting a fraction of the attention because it’s just some PhD who finally published their dissertation.

If you want Republicans to accept scientific evidence, and presumably other truths, we need to give them more positive views toward Democrats. The Lincoln Project does the opposite and attempts to give Democrats more positive views towards Republicans.

Go on any social media and look for the Lincoln Project’s official account. Then look at the replies to their videos. What do you see? You see people on the left agreeing with it. I scrolled quite a ways on a few videos and was unable to find even one reply from a Republican who was anti-Trump.

Whether they actually believe in their stated mission, of getting Republicans to vote for Joe, there is no evidence that is the effect they are having. There is evidence to suggest they are succeeding at making Democrats believe that there are at least some Republicans who are not fascists. Even as an unintentional side effect, as opposed to extremely clever propaganda, I can’t imagine they are unhappy about that result.

TL;DR: The point is, no matter how good of a video they make, do not trust them. If you really believe in the left, then promote and support organizations that are actually on the left.

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Posting in two places as it fits the history thread and also reinforces Andy and Scott’s point here.
https://youtu.be/hsxukOPEdgg

A lot of people I know who have traditionally been voting Republican, seems like if they actually disapprove of Trump are just voting for JoJo. They will never vote Blue as long as gun control and, I dunno, socialism is perceived as on the agenda, other random things? I don’t even know what they are about anymore other than vague notions and nebulous concepts.

I have heard a lot of chatter on the right basically saying Trump is a bag boy and a clown, basically Boog Boi talk; so like, there’s that. But not a single one seems like they will vote for Biden instead. Not that I’ve ever heard of. One term of a divisive leader has not turned them on decades of hating the blues.

I don’t see any reason this group would encourage more democratic turnout.

I told you. Imagine if we spent this money focusing on the Latino vote or running door knocking efforts. Just a complete abject embarrassment so many people were taken in by this grift.

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Wasn’t the Lincoln project essentially run by nevertrump republicans? I don’t see how that money gets directed elsewhere nor how the donors to those two projects would instead donate toward a more liberal PAC or the DNC directly.

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I’m not sure there’s any way to tell who the smaller donors are, but they pulled in big donations from wealthy Democrats. I’d be amazed if they got more money from Republicans than Democrats.

Feel free to just make up your own narrative that isn’t supported by the data.

According to its latest quarterly report with the Federal Election Commission, The Lincoln Project has also become a favorite for some of Hollywood’s political heavyweights, with a number of prominent Democratic donors shifting some of their 2020 election spend toward the PAC, which took in a total of more than $39 million this past quarter.

Among the PACs top 10 donors are Dreamworks co-founder David Geffen, who has contributed $300,000 to The Lincoln Project, as well as fellow Dreamworks co-founder and Quibi CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg, who has donated $100,000. The PACs biggest individual donor is businessman and oil heir Gordon Getty, who contributed $1 million.

Run by Republicans and bankrolled mostly by Democrats, The Lincoln Project has propelled itself onto the list of top spending super PACs thanks to cash infusions from small donors as well as billionaire backers.

The anti-Trump group raised a whopping $39 million from July through September, according to Federal Election Commission records filed Wednesday. That’s most of the nearly $59 million the PAC’s raised in the 2020 election cycle after launching late last year.

The Lincoln Project has attracted a massive online following through its viral ads that ridicule President Donald Trump. Trump’s attacks on The Lincoln Project have only helped it grow its list of supporters. The group spends big on Facebook ads to court potential donors, helping the group bring in 39 percent of its money from small donors giving $200 or less. That’s an unusually high mark for a super PAC, as these groups are typically funded almost entirely by wealthy donors.

Still, The Lincoln Project has also caught the attention of deep-pocketed Democratic patrons. In the third quarter, The Lincoln Project received $300,000 from the Sixteen Thirty Fund, a liberal nonprofit that injected $32 million in “dark money” into like-minded outside groups through August. The Lincoln Project joins a long list of super PACs filling their coffers with secret money from groups that don’t disclose their donors.

The group also brought in $1 million from Gordon Getty, a classical musician and billionaire heir to the Getty family fortune. It received six-figure checks from several other Democratic donors such as DreamWorks founder David Geffen, billionaire investor John Pritzker and Bain Capital executive Jonathan Lavine, among others.

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This sums up my feelings on this topic, if you disagree you should really analyze why you think the Lincoln Project is of any worth in making this country a better place.

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I am in no way saying that the Lincoln project was a good investment. I did make assumptions about whom was donating to them, so mea culpa on that.

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If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have come back after your multiple month absence. Words are empty when actions defy them.

Have fun, I knew there was a reason I left this community :slight_smile:

Famous last words DoubleGomez used seven different times.

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I don’t know why this keeps coming up, because it’s like basic politics, if you can divide your opponents. You should take any chance you can get to do so. If it means some funding goes to a group of disgruntled ex-republicans/republican’s. That’s the cost of doing business. Looking at the incomplete returns there is a lot of evidence of Republicans who ticket split for Biden and then voted for other republicans. You can see if if you go into the House districts and compare the vote, for example Bucks County PA voted Biden by 4% and voted for Rep Fitzpatrick (a Repbulcian) for 12%.

These cross over voters exist. If the Lincoln Project wants to keep routing and out attacking Trumpster Republicans. We should let them. If they somehow figure out how to create a Republican party that isn’t as racist, anti LGBTQ as before, it will only make the parties stronger. But while they are fighting themselves, we have a lot of opportunities to exploit those internal fights.

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Reminds me that when I was running for office in the 10’s our campaign manager was a republican who hated people currently in office (republicans) so offered his experience to run our campaign logistically, lets just say we won. Should we not have used his help? His logistics helped us run a great campaign and it came without baggage.

A lot of y’all are failing to understand the point that TLP barely made any real difference in this election other than making fast/effective videos pointing out Trumps issues. They never really affected the White vote in this election and the receipts show it.

So what it divided opponents when most of them still voted for white supremacy.

IT WAS BLACK PEOPLE.

Edit; the fact that internet whites are crediting them over STACEY YVONNE ABRAMS, is an absolute insult to all the Black people, especially Black women that are the reasons the tide changed.

There are reasons why I don’t come here often, and it’s mainly the whiteness and male dominated posts. I’ve found my refuge in other places, and this is no longer it.

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