Monitors

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Why didn’t they announce this when I bought my monitor :confused:

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Right? You must have breathed it into existence by buying a monitor.

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On the bright side, if you care about HDR then this new monitor would not be for you.

Took one for the team :wink:

I just finished setting up, configuring, and testing this new monitor that I mentioned above. Here is a review.

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn950-b-gaming-monitor

Physically the monitor is way better than expected. It’s way thinner and lighter than the 1920x1200 24" Ultrasharps I have, and it’s 4k 27".

The back looks awful in product photos, but is less bad in person. That circle thing sticks out less than it appears. The front makes up for it. Absolutely perfect. Just a minimal black bezel around a screen. That’s it. No logos, no nothing. It’s just a screen. Hard to ask for more than that.

The LED lighting effects are less bad than I thought they would be. It’s actually kind of nice to put it on a very low setting when the room is dark. Feels good on the eyes as long as you don’t enable ridiculous mode. I’ll probably keep it disabled most of the time, though. What is disappointing is that the options for color choice are actually quite limited. My mouse and my CPU cooler have lighting options, even though I have those disabled as well.

The physical controls on the monitor are kinda crap. There’s a little joystick nub for changing settings, it’s flimsy and the menus suck. There’s a scroll wheel that’s also a button just for controlling lights, it’s also flimsy and crappy. At least they are minimal and invisible on the bottom of the monitor where you will never see them.

The image is really stunning. I don’t have another 4K screen to compare it to, so it could actually be the worst 4K screen. But I can watch a 4K YouTube video, and it looks fantastic. My photos in Lightroom look completely different. It’s a new world.

I thought I would be upset at not having it be 16:10, but since it’s 27" 4K vs 24" it doesn’t feel like I actually lost any vertical space. I could measure, but I’m good. I did, however, gain a LOT of horizontal space. Almost feels like too much. I kind of have to put two apps side by side, or it’s kind of silly to have all that room. You full screen a browser and the margins take up half the screen.

As for colors, as the review suggests the sRGB mode is so obviously over-saturated. Not good for video/photo editing or color correction. You can get a special USB device from LG to do some calibrated mode with their calibration software. Not worth it. I set it to the VESA certified HDR mode. This is providing a really great image for videos, gaming, and other entertainment functions. Not bad for just reading text and doing normal computer stuff. I did have to turn the brightness down because it was hurting my eyeballs.

I tested and the HDR absolutely worked on YouTube. However, does it really matter? How often are videos you watch going to be HDR? The only ones I could find were all test videos, not actual content. Firefox YouTube doesn’t even support the HDR, but it worked in Chrome and Edge. Maybe it will matter in games.

As for the 144Hz refresh rate, I can’t test that. Apparently you need Display Port 1.4 with display stream compression for it to have enough bandwidth to send 144 frames of 4k images over the wire. The 1070 video card I have doesn’t support that. One day I’ll get a 50 or 60 series NVidia card and unlock the full potential of this display.

The best it supports with normal Display Port 1.4 (no DSC) is 120Hz. I tested it at 60, 90, and 120 Hz. It’s hard to find a right answer here as to which one is best. You can tell that some apps are able to refresh quickly enough and they are just so much smoother at 120. Other apps are not, and they actually look less smooth. But running everything at 60 all the time is also less smooth. Going to just leave it at 120 for now.

The NVidia GSync compatibility is supposedly enabled, and I’m going to test that out. Supposedly it means I can play games without VSync and see all the frames I can render (up to 120Hz) without tearing. Gotta play some games with fps counter displayed on the screen to know for sure.

TL;DR: If you can afford to spend a large amount of money, but not the ridiculous amount of money that an ASUS ROG or actual NVidia GSync monitor costs, and you aren’t using it for visual arts where you need color accuracy, this is a good choice. Especially good for entertainment/gaming purposes, which is what I got it for. Also good for general purpose computing, but not worth getting if you aren’t doing entertainment stuff with it.

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Dual monitors!

I got pretty bad RSI in my right index finger, and after some experimentation I found it was almost entirely down to using my laptop trackpad for some big work projects. So I switched to a mouse in MacOS, which broke my brain because previously Mouse=Windows and Trackpad=MacOS, and an external keyboard.

But then my setup was weird, as the laptop was too far away and didn’t line up with my external monitor. Generally a pain. I experimented with moving Juliane’s monitor over and having the classic side-by-side setup, and that is obviously the best way to go.

In the end I just bought the exact same monitor a second time. So now I have dual 144hz 1080p gaming monitors. I’d prefer 4k or retina or whatever, but this is the best balance of cost and “get productive quickly and heal the finger”. The exact same monitor means that the stands and designs and bezels and panels and colour profiles all match up, which is actually way less distracting than going with the laptop + external monitor setup.

I need to do another cable management session… but I’ll leave it a few weeks until I think I have everything in its final place.

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Very nice. I don’t even know how to live without two monitors. Surprised you didn’t go for the 4k though.

Meanwhile, I’m still in the market for a second 4k monitor.

In 2012 I got 2x Dell U2410 monitors. One of them broke awhile back. I borrowed an identical model from Rym. Just earlier this year I got an LG-27GN950B and gave Rym his monitor back. Still very happy with the LG. Typing this message on it right now.

However, I don’t think I will be well served as having two of the LGs. I only need one high refresh rate monitor for gaming purposes. I need one with better color accuracy for photo/video work.

Early last year (also see above) the Dell U2720Q came out and I lamented that it was basically the same as the U2718Q at a much higher price, only with USB-C. Well, a year and three months out the U2720Q is now much cheaper! Dell sells it for $140 under the original MSRP, but it’s out of stock.

The question now is, if it comes back in stock, do I get one? Or is this perhaps some sort of signal that the U2722Q is coming soon? If/when it comes, of course it will be more expensive. But will it be an actual meaningful improvement over the current model that is worth paying extra for? Or will it just be the same panel in a slightly different shell yet again, making the U2720 the one to get.

My current thinking is that the U2720 is good enough, and meets all my needs. It’s 4k, 27", 60Hz, is accurate enough, and has all the connections I need. If it comes back in stock, I’ll probably get it. That doesn’t seem to be happening, though, so plenty of time to mull it over.

In the chance someone needs to get a monitor stand, I have found “the one”

This comes in three modes (not a stand, basic stand, wider stand) but they all do the same thing. I got it since my internal bluetooth card was dead and heard some nice reviews, that works, also has a built in fingerprint scanner if you wanted to take advantage of that. Through to share just in case anyone was interested in it.

The cron job I had running to check when this monitor came back in stock totally worked.

Share the job? 15char

It’s extremely specific to that exact web page for that exact monitor, which is still in stock, but ok.

Also the email part of the script won’t work unless you have msmtp setup.

Also, even though I ordered it, they say they aren’t actually shipping it until July.

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There’s a firefox extension I used to use for stuff like this Check4Change – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-CA)

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That’s pretty good! I feel like that Firefox add-on is more useful for short-term checking. Like if I’m sitting at the computer the entire time I’m waiting. This was something that could have taken months to change, or maybe never changed. The monitor could have been discontinued and a new model could have been released. And even though it did, there was no guarantee I would be at a computer when it did.

New UltraSharps just dropped.

If I was buying one now I would get the U2723QE. But since I already have a U2720Q, I should be good for many many years. Maybe if I win a lottery or something.

The Dell UltraSharp 32 monitor with the IPS Black screen is coming out in a 6K version instead of 4K.

I would definitely need a new video card to play games at native on that thing.

Kind of want…

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I actually like there being an integrated webcam. It’s a pretty dang good webcam, and it cleans up one USB cable from the desk.

What I worry about is that 6K could be an issue for a lot of apps with regards to scaling. I expect a lot of things to be programmed poorly and only scale properly at 1.5 or 2x. At 6K you might need 2.5 or 3x scaling.

It looks like there are four levels of scaling on the Apple 6k monitor: