What I am getting from all this Iron fist talk is I should rewatch Beverly Hills Ninja instead:
I havenât really found any of the Marvel shows to be interesting. Leigon seemed okay, but not really good enough to pull me in.
Re: Iron Fist
Reading the conversation it just amazes me that Iron Fist fails so utterly. Iron Fist is a really dated character concept (Tarzan but Kung Fu), but itâs not like Hollywood hasnât made this show before. They just decided to do it in the most obnoxious, tone deaf way possible.
Whatâs really jarring is the âI went to Kun Lun, became the Iron Fist and all I got was this lousy T-Shirtâ attitude of Danny. Yeesh.
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Iron Fist had the potential to be soooo so good, regardless of falling into the âWhite Man As Saviorâ trope. I have no idea why they didnât focus at all on his training in Kun Lun, why they made him an immature man-child, and why they decided to have him discover that the Hand was in NYC AFTER he already left Kun Lun.
Like you wrote, the character may be dated, but this could have been an awesome show in the same vein as the first half of Batman Begins, showing Danny becoming the Iron Fist, or by simply giving Danny a purpose and a likable personality.
Iâm enjoying Legion because it doesnât seem to take itself nearly as seriously as most of its genre, AND Aubrey Plaza + Jemaine Clement yes please.
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Like you wrote, the character may be dated, but this could have been an awesome show
[/quote]Case in point, Luke Cage. Dude was basically the worst of blacksploitation stereotypes played to eleven. TV show, a thoughtful exploration of race and power in the modern day, because they changed it up and followed the more modern comics.
And for some reason, they completely failed to do exactly what theyâd already done with a second character, that it should have been FAR easier to do it with.
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I have seen someone compare it unfavourably to Wes Anderson film. But I view this show is basically a superhero show in the same way that Pushing Daisies was a Detective serial. It takes itself as seriously as the story needs to be told - but it is being told in a magic realist reality bending way. I have basically been using pictures of Aubrey Plaza as reasons to watch it. The James Bond title scene style dance number she does in episode six was excellent example of this.
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âDaughters of the Dragonâ spin-off for Colleen and Misty Knight please, like yesterday.
Also pretty much agreed with everyone re: Iron Fist. Shitâs bad. Iâm at episode 8 and probably not gonna continue. If I do, itâll be purely as a completionist thing for The Defenders. The only aspects Iâm enjoying are 1) what scraps of character they let Colleen have, 2) Claire (as always), and 3) Madame Gao, because Wai Ching Ho always brings her A-game to that role. Itâs clear she has a great time playing that character and she has a very strong, yet subtle screen presence.
Speaking of Defenders: I really hope that maybe with a different creative team and a more action-packed scenario to play off of, that show can wring something more interesting out of the Danny Rand character. Better choreography at least? Maybe�
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I managed some enjoyment from Iron Fist (although I was playing Breath of the Wild most of the time I had it on, that probably helped). Other than Colleen Wing, probably the best thing to come out of the show was episode 8 reminding me that Iâm long overdue a Drunken Master/classic Jackie Chan film marathon.
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The Iron Fist character is half way there, Iâm only through half the season. Heâs supposed to be an utter doofus that plays the smart alec alongside serious characters. If this show was more on the side of all out humour, it would stand up way better as the version of the character which really explores the serious side is closer to the content from the Dr Strange movie than what is depicted.
The Rand Corp stuff is corny and is forced so that The Hand can be connected to Rand and Danny early.
Not knowing what heâs doing at work or not caring as long as he has his riches and Kun Lun is safe should be all that matters. The legal side of it was interesting as it attempted to show what would happen in that type corporate situation but it dragged on a bit.
As a result of this Colleen Wing ended up being the more interesting character.
The fight scenes were a let down, was hoping that this was where all the budget went to but it was disappointing. Not near the brutality of Daredevil or the special effects of Cage.
For me itâs the 3rd best as Jessica Jones was utter trash in my opinion, they totally butchered the original character, villain and storyline.
Yeah but the show is based on the character that was resurrected from the blacksploitation days, heâs almost been lifted directly from the recent comics into the show except the show was on the cornier side.
I agree with the issues with Iron Fist, but Iâm enjoying it regardless, The Iron Fist in the comics is well trained and a âIron Fistâ through and through while the Iron Fist in the TV show doesnât seem to have trained past eating the dragons heart and then he just ran off. Iâm taking it for what it is and enjoying the crazy Hand Ninjaâs. Apparently the guy who played the Drunken master hand ninja was in the running to play Iron Fist originally, would have been interesting. Regardless hopefully heâll be more interesting playing off Luke Cage in Defenders, I donât hate the actor, they just decided to perform a damaged not fully trained Iron fist to mixed results.
The show also needed a Second person Narrator like his first comic :-p âYou Assume the Cat Stance, You wait, You Taunt and they STRIKE!â
I sometimes wish superhero comic book TV was its own thing and not even considered TV, because all Iâm getting from all this discussion is that my shitty existance on this star-orbiting ball of iron and stone is- yet measurably less shitty by simple fact of ignoring the bulk of TV based on superheroes, all but for the level of ignorong it one has to endure.
In other TV, The Americans is back on TV, and is still awesome. I am really enjoying this Vietnamese spy kid subplot, and the developments with everyoneâs loyalties and expectations while pushing ahead.and also the disguises are on point as ever. This season: nasty mystery bugs could threaten the Soviets, Stan Beemanâs goofy smile could threaten his chances with gym girl, and Bennigans leftovers can threaten even the staunchest commie radicalâs diet.
On the bugs front Iâd enjoy the hell out of a The Americans and a proto X-Files crossover somehow being made where the Jennings are chasing after alien Conspiracies for The Center and a younger Smoking Man is enlisting Stan and a super novice Mulder to track down the same.
Also The Expanse is on tonight and this season has been ramping up towards exciting new things after a slight mid-season lull. Plus Expanse Season 3 is confirmed! Excelsior!
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I think the final season would have done better if it hadnât been for that stinker of a third season. That said, I really miss stargate universe and caprica. Despite all of their issues, I think they had a lot of potential.
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I really enjoyed BSG up until they revealed the Final Five Cylons. I was incredibly disappointed with that and it seemed clear that the show really had no idea where it was going or how to handle that. It eventually recovered, but I was hoping for something really epic, and didnât get it.
That woman is liquid sex. Knew it when she was in Parks and Rec. Know it now.
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We are continuing with Agents of Shield, and are 5 episodes into season 3. Itâs pretty okay so far.
Recommended:
Abstract is a documentary series, on Netflix, like Chefâs Table, where each episode tells the story of a single creative person, but in this case designers rather than chefs. The professions include graphic design, typography, illustration, architecture, shoe design (mainly Air Jordans and the Back To The Future self-lacing sneakers), car design, photography, and interior design. All of them are really good, and follow some of the top names in their fields, with some stand out episodes which are examples of masterful storytelling and documentary making.
That is, all except the interior design episode, which drops the ball in so many places, and doesnât follow the structure of the other episodes. Itâs so surprisingly mediocre that it just shows up the craft of the other episodes, and Juliane and I discussed it for almost two hours, getting to the heart of what made it so bad and what made the other episodes so good.
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The only thing I hated about the BSG ending is there is 2 or 3 spots in it where it could of ended in the last episode but it just kept going. Some of the ending spots are very satisfying on a character level (Roslinâs death being the biggest) but not on a philosophical level which the final end gives you.
FWIW seeing another woman referred to as âliquid sexâ makes me uncomfortable.
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