Queers invade the White CisHet Male safe space

Good luck. I really hope this works out for you.

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Good luck with those medications. I hope everything goes well.

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This isnā€™t quite a fail but I wanted to post it somewhere.

Iā€™m delaying increasing my dosage of Estradiol by a month. My mood swings are too severe and unpredictable at this time to add more estrogen to my system. Iā€™m not devastated, just a little peeved. My hair isnā€™t growing back after laser treatment, and my chest is developing nicely. Iā€™m satisfied for now.

Also hereā€™s a pic of me from right before I went on estrogen, cause I think I look pretty.

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I might be rapid cycling. I was having 20-60 minute swings much of Thursday and yesterday. Thursday was the day I got inked so endorphins could explain that (maybe?) but yesterday was simply inexplicable. Called my psychiatristā€™s office asking him to call me (he doesnā€™t get in until 1 so itā€™ll be a while) so hopefully we can act on this today.

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Good luck Lizzie, weā€™re all pulling for ya.

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So the rapid cycling is mostly gone. Sometimes Iā€™ll have 15-20 minute mood swings, but theyā€™re much more moderate in degree than what I went through last week. But iā€™m pretty steadily depressed most of the time, and tonight I realized a contributing factor, the realization of which is making things much easier. On some level Iā€™m afraid this isnā€™t going to work. Iā€™m not afraid of an exact repeat of last February, as I donā€™t think Iā€™ll ever go back into the closet again, but I am essentially afraid that hormones wonā€™t agree with me and Iā€™ll live with this masculine body for the rest of my life. Itā€™s not gonna happen, but itā€™s a very real fear.

Anyway, happy Trans Day of Visibility.

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Calendar reminder added:

https://twitter.com/poseonfx/status/1115651810612539392?s=21

I fucking hate being asked my pronouns. Itā€™s not bad in explicitly queer spaces, because everyone gets asked them. When Iā€™m in a gender/sexuality neutral space and someone asks me my pronouns, it singles me out as trans, something which Iā€™m not necessarily comfortable with everyone around me at that moment knowing.

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Yes. This is exactly why we try to always share pronouns with everybody during introductions. We always share ours, and we always ask for theirs. Doesnā€™t matter what people look like, we always share. This normalizes it for everyone, so itā€™s not just a thing that singles people out. Also why eveyrone should put it in their online profiles like Twitter bio and such.

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Excepting people for whom such revelations might put them in significant danger.

In the cases where Iā€™ve had to ask for pronouns, Iā€™ve done it privately with the caveat of ā€œonly if itā€™s okā€ and volunteering my own in a kind of vulnerability-exchange. But itā€™s definitely difficult in non-queer spaces, or when you have to navigate how much the other person wants to be out, and to whom.

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I agree, but also this really shouldnā€™t be an issue for me due to how I present. I realize thatā€™s not really self-evident on this text-only Forum, but my daily garb is a dress, I wear a lot of makeup, and I have (or at least simulate) a significant bust. Iā€™m doing everything I can to try to visually scream ā€œshe pronounsā€ and itā€™s not working.

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I donā€™t have a good approach to this conundrum, because boundaries are not transitive and cultures are not monolith. I know female-presenting enbies whose use ā€œtheyā€ pronouns, so I canā€™t use the same assumption on you that I could on them. But I also know other women who are hurt when, as you have expressed here, people ask for their pronouns. Like, you fought so hard to assert your identity, only to have people ignore it.

So, my solution has been more conversation. I actively stop trying to make the assumption at all, and wait for the other person to give me the cue.

I havenā€™t actually incorporated giving my own pronouns yet like @Apreche has, so thatā€™s probably my next step. I include it in my Twitter profile, so like thatā€™s something, but I think the conversational use is probably useful, because itā€™s behavior modeling and an indication that I am a ā€œsafeā€ person.

But, thank you for saying something. Your feelings are valid and important, and I want to create an inclusive space, so this is something I needed to hear.

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Thanks for the validation. Honestly, and I would never say this as a reaction to someone being mad I accidentally misgendered them, I kind of feel like if youā€™re touchy about pronouns you should have one of those pronoun pins. I know there are people who canā€™t wear those pins for safety reasons, but I also suspect those are people for whom itā€™s not safe to assert their own pronouns in any sort of way anyway. I donā€™t mind when someone honestly mistakes me for a man. It happens frequently when Iā€™m not careful about what jacket Iā€™m wearing and how it affects my figure. Itā€™s way less anxiety provoking to just correct someone like that, which many cis women have to as well depending on how they look, than it is for someone to ask me my pronouns.

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For people with work emails. Do you put your pronouns in your signature?

The thought occurred to me and I wonder if I should do it. But then again, it would be revolutionary at my job and I could get a speaking to.

A lot of businesses have VERY prescribed formatting and content for email signatures, youā€™re liable to get in trouble for it sadly, as good an idea as that is.

I understand that. I have yearly trainings for all the rules of conduct and didnā€™t see anything in my agencyā€™s guide that really prohibits it.

Iā€™m asking people in general.

I donā€™t even have an email signature for work (or home).

I havenā€™t thought about that, actually.

No, I donā€™t, and I think itā€™s probably because our email signature format is so prescribed that itā€™s never occurred to me to deviate from it.

It also doesnā€™tā€¦fit? That sounds really shitty, but I have no other way to describe it. Iā€™m not sure where it logically goes, whereas with a social media profile it makes intuitive sense to me.

New York is also really big on not discriminating based on gender identity (itā€™s part of several of our annual trainings), so thereā€™s this whole state office culture where we donā€™t really pay attention to it? Kind of? Or at least weā€™re not supposed to. Like, my gender should be completely irrelevant on an email for work purposes, because thatā€™s a personal and youā€™re not supposed to be prying into peopleā€™s personal lives at all.

There are problems with all that, of course, but I think thatā€™s whatā€™s going on here.

Iā€™ll have to ponder that more.

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My signature, for reference:

Peter Olsen
Food Laboratory Specialist 1

NYS Department of Agriculture and Markets | Food Laboratory Division

1220 Washington Avenue, Building 6, Albany, NY 12206
(518) 457-3358 l [peter.olsen [at] agriculture.ny.gov](mailto:peter.olsen [at] agriculture.ny.gov)
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