Now that Donald Trump has Won


#684

It’s a good thing something like 44 or 45 states have refused to cooperate then.


#685

As far as I can tell, the dude ignored CNN’s attempts to contact him, deleted his shit and posted apologies, then reached out to CNN and asked them not to publish his identity if he stopped being shitty. I’m pretty sure they never asked him to apologize or anything, and reaching out to him is not threatening.


#686

[quote=“chaosof99, post:682, topic:125”]
It is borderline doxxing which is definitely not okay.
[/quote]Like hell. He did awful things, which got national attention due to the president taking a liking to them. No matter if he likes it or not, he’s currently a person of national interest, meaning that naming(and shaming, considering the content) isn’t doxxing. As the saying I made up just now goes, if you can’t deal with the consequences of having your klan hood pulled off and your face shown to the world, don’t put the klan hood on in the first place.

Plus, just naming the guy and the state that he lives in wouldn’t be doxxing anyway. They’re refusing to name the guy, not refusing to post his home address, phone number, and the names of his family members.

[quote=“Ikatono, post:685, topic:125, full:true”]
As far as I can tell, the dude ignored CNN’s attempts to contact him, deleted his shit and posted apologies, then reached out to CNN and asked them not to publish his identity if he stopped being shitty. I’m pretty sure they never asked him to apologize or anything, and reaching out to him is not threatening.
[/quote]Not quite. CNN figured out who he was, and reached out to him for comment. He started bricking it, deleted all his shit, and posted apologies. He then called CNN to apologize. CNN is not publishing his name because they’re giving him the benefit of the doubt - basically, protecting him from the social consequences of his actions, because he’s already showing remorse and willingness to change his behavior, meaning that being party to further social consequences is pointless and cruel. They’re also hedging their bets in case he isn’t, and basically saying “But if he’s not genuine, there’s no more reason to protect him from the consequences of his actions.” They did not, at any point, make a deal with him.


#687

I think this is the silly part. Either reveal him or don’t. Threatening to do so is silly. “Doxxing” is an internet rule that media has never followed. I’m of two minds on whether that’s a good thing but regardless, the internet backlash would have been much weaker if they just outed him completely like many previous cases.


#688

[quote=“fundefined, post:687, topic:125”]
I think this is the silly part. Either reveal him or don’t. Threatening to do so is silly. “Doxxing” is an internet rule that media has never followed. I’m of two minds on whether that’s a good thing but regardless, the internet backlash would have been much weaker if they just outed him completely like many previous cases.
[/quote]They’re not threatening jack shit. The guy seemed remorseful, so they saw no need to release his name, it would have been unnecessarily cruel. If it turns out that he was just trying to dodge the consequences of having his Klan hood yanked off, then there’s no reason to protect him from consequences.

It’s literally just stating their intentions, and making it clear that there’s no deal to not release his identity, they just thought it was the right course of action for the situation, and making it clear that if the situation changes, so might their decision.


#689

Also…

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-student-loan-lawsuit-20170706-story.html


#690

Donald Trump Jr. has basically now admitted that the Trump campaign attended a meeting with a Putin lawyer seeking/expecting information that is damaging to Clinton on June 6th of last year. There is now on-record testimony by the Trump campaign of collusion. Ho boy.


#691

#692

Someone pointed out they may feed Don Jr to the wolves if it keeps the heat off of Jared. Which would say a lot about Trump family relationships.


#693

Mueller is hiring a crack team, not the types for run of the mill stuff these are the folks you get when you’re gonna bury a mob boss. They’re all fraud and organized crime lawyers. Shit is gonna get real very soon I think.


#694

He even posted the emails on Twitter! Defense attorneys everywhere are facepalming.


#695

I feel for the guy who broke the story:


#696

I mean, this is fucking insanity. There is now black and white proof of the Trump campaign colluding with Russia provided by Trump’s inner circle.


#697

I don’t want to burst anyone’s bubble, but I have doubts that anyone who didn’t already care will be shifted because of this or that Trump’s team will get legally pursued for this. I will wait and see, like I have. I will tweet stuff out because I refuse to be quiet, but…I don’t want to pretend this is what will finally fix things.


#698

Oh there’s no way this will change anyone’s mind. To be fair though l, I don’t think there’s anything that WOULD change some of Trump’s supporters minds. They’ve spent so long deflecting and defending they literally cannot afford to stop doing so mentally.

I’ve personally seen people go from “Russia didn’t do anything, period.” To “Maybe Russia did but no one connected to Trump knew” to now saying it’s all either fake, not a big deal, or Hillary did stuff too.
There is literally nothing that could be said or done to have these people change their minds. You might as well be arguing the science debunking Noah’s Ark to a hardcore creationist at this point.


#699

Thing is, everyone except Trump himself is fair game for criminal prosecution by Mueller. I’m pretty confident Junior is either going to get charged or offered immunity in return for testifying against his dad.


#700

The people who remain members of the Republican Party are bad people. They know exactly what the party is doing, and they’re for it because it’s their last and only chance to ruin everything.


#701

I disagree: a lot of the die-hards are more like cultists who can only view the world through the lens of the party line, without knowing or realizing how the things Republicans actually do conflict with their claimed principles.


#702

Just remember, when Richard Nixon resigned, under threat of impeachment, he still had about a 24% approval rating. One out of four people still approved of him as president!!!


#703

If they can make a case where Ivanka could be thrown in jail, that might be enough to get Trump out of office.

Also, once the Trump group got the Russian intel, did they pass it along to the RNC and who in the RNC knew where the intel came from.

Hell, Trump’s Chief of Staff was head of the RNC before taking his current job.