Nazis marching in America


#541

It’s almost as if they were trying to show that reality is shades of grey. :thinking:


#542

I’m pretty sure the original story, of when DeAndre Harris was originally arrested for defending himself against a bunch of white supremacists, was posted in this forum. His case finally went before a judge and he was aquitted of all charges.

“A black man brutally beaten at last year’s white supremacist “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville — and who was later charged with assaulting a white nationalist — was acquitted Friday.”


#543

I remember this. The story originally was something to the effect of, some white supremacist was friends with a pseudo-judge (magistrate I think) and because of that was able to get an arrest warrant put on Mr. Harris.

I guess this is the system working as intended since he got off no problem still, that magistrate should be… well not a magistrate anymore at the very least.


#544

I’m not exactly sure how magistrates are chosen in Virginia, but apparently two bills were proposed that applies more oversight to them:


#545

It is a state job you apply for like a normal job. I actually applied to be a magistrate, there are no state laws about qualifications. Localities set their own standards though most require a bachelor’s degree at the bare minimum and prefer J.D.'s. or at the very least a very experienced paralegal. I am told a lot of them are people who have their J.D. but haven’t passed the bar or found an actual lawyer job yet, but in some places there are magistrates who are Sheriff Billy Bob’s second cousin who needs a job.


#546

I should apply to be one! I wonder how much they pay.


#547

Turns out punching works.


#548

#549

If anybody wants to see MAGA-asshats getting beaten up for entertainment, I think we found a solution.


#550

"An Arkansas man has been convicted of malicious wounding for beating a black man during a white nationalist rally last year in Charlottesville, Va.

Jacob Scott Goodwin, 23, will be sentenced in August. The jury is recommending 10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine, local TV station NBC 29 reports."


#551

I mean, I’m pleased by this, but in a sense I shouldn’t be

I’m pleased by this because this happening isn’t normal, so when justice actually occurs I get pleased.

Justice being served should be the default.


#552

While I’m 100% in favor of punching Nazis, I am also deeply into the public humiliation of them and their fellow-travelers.


#553

I spent the whole video wondering if the sign was made of coroplast.


#554

That is in downtown Seattle. Also:

It gets better:


#555

Sartre on Nazis:


#556

Same for ironic sexists and ironic anything else-ists. Much younger Scott was often guilty of some “get back in the kitchen” jokes. Even though I was honestly joking, I don’t make those “jokes” anymore, and I’ll dispense shame on anyone who does.


#557

Proud Boys doing us proud


#558

A while back, there was a talk at, I think, at DEFcon linked around here about elevators and how they’re actually just unsecured staircases and should never be considered a way of preventing anyone from getting anywhere.

Anyway I’ve been following the speakers of those talks for years now and they attended HOPE con, and I kinda watched as this nonsense was live tweeted. This is boing boing’s article about postmortem that one of the organizers made.

The thing that strikes me is that the nazis are largely indistinguishable from the westboro baptist church, in this instance. They provoke others to break the rules while not technically breaking the rules themselves. The postmortem contains some ideas about how to address this. All in all worth a read. Especially if you organize or volunteer at any event where you can, even in a small way, influence the CoC or how it’s enforced.


#559

It’s trivial to deal with. Con rules just state that anyone can be removed for any reason at any time (even with a refund to make things simpler), and you just start removing the people who are obviously causing the problem.

It’s only ever not trivial if your own staff are sympathetic to the nazis.


#560

From what I gather, (and I could be wrong, I defer to experts like you) in HOPEcon and many other cons’ cases, con rules don’t state that at all. Instead they have specific things that you can be removed for and the nazis don’t do any of those things.

If trivial to deal with, then this should be thought of as a, if you’re a con, update your CoC to include a, we can throw anyone out for any reason clause.