2020 Democratic Presidential Primaries

Yeah he sucks. Nobody is saying he doesn’t.

We’re saying that despite being awful, he’s still a significantly better option compared to the pile of diarrhea on fire that is our current president. It’s not about how good Bloomberg is, because he’s not. It’s about how bad Trump is. He’s just that much worse.

Even Ronald Reagan is better than Trump. That how bad Trump is.

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My liberal niece: <3 so awesome

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I still believe everything will get better when enough old people die. It just might still get worse before it gets better.

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He says that they (red staters) think that trans women are just men in dresses, but that the intelligencia need to be good salesmen to disabuse them of that thinking.

You are really advocating purging human beings? Disgusting.

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Hey uh that’s fucked up.

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I’ll be more clear. If Republicans continue to attack the welfare state, that directly impacts the health of their main voter base. Ditto for social security, minimum wage, and everything else. I’m surprised we haven’t hit the wall yet, but it’s coming where the aging Boomer population will begin to be aggressively impacted by the social and economic climate they’ve created. They are going to experience ageism soon, and it will probably be the first time in their lives they experience prejudice. In the same way that we must destroy their misinformation about “nationalism” and other fascist propaganda, we need to head this wave off and ensure they do not deflect the real blame they deserve for their situation as blank prejudice.

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Thanks for clarifying.

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I’m going to be blunt, “Bloomberg is just as bad as Trump” is at best needlessly reductionist and at worst a bad-faith argument. I am no fan of racist-ass billionaires, and I believe in aggressive wealth redistribution because no person can amass that fortune and still be a friend of the working class, but there is nuance, and it is the height of intellectual dishonesty to wash that nuance away.

The Sanders campaign and its attendant ardent supporters have been repeatedly accused of lacking nuance and failing to account for differences that may be important to others, and that is entirely at work here. Reducing everything to a class issue while ignoring differences within specific classes has been a constant critique, to which I have not seen an adequate response. It’s the largest critique I see from the PoC camp, and here we are again erasing important differences because class trumps all according to Sanders.

It’s not that simple. If it were, we wouldn’t have racial inequality in the middle class. People want that addressed, and the Sanders message is consistently seen as blowing past or dismissing that. “Bloomberg is just as bad as Trump” is literally the same problematic thought process applied to a different arena. Learn to recognize and combat it or you will literally tank your own movement.

You want to criticize Bloomberg, let’s talk about why he’s not trying to run as Republican to unseat Trump, or why he isn’t using his vast wealth to unseat GOP Senators in key races. We can criticize those things left and right without falling into the intellectually lazy trap of “both sides” or “billionaires can’t be trusted.”

I don’t want to vote for Bloomberg and I am working everywhere I can to make sure that’s not the case, but for the love of fuck you are actually making it harder to make that reality happen by erasing any and all nuance from the discussion.

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On a different note, a queer friend shared this article and it really sums up a lot of my disquiet with Pete that I haven’t voiced because “cishet white man criticizes gay man for being a bad gay” is pretty much The Worst Look.

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Things are bad, things can get worse – worse for people for whom it’s already bad, and worse for a greater quantity of people. Trying to quantify which is preferable, or “the lesser evil”, is certainly an ugly choice (as odious as insurance assessment), but it’s a choice that’s baked into the American empire / post-colonial global experience and you’ve been making, consciously or unconsciously, the whole time. Let’s just do our best to keep it from coming down to Bloomb v Trumpf.

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I think you underestimate how shitty young folks are and how few of them/us currently engage in elections/politics, but who likely will get more engaged as they age.

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Can anyone here explain to me how this isn’t election interference? A political candidate just bragged about holding the president, who is looking to be reelected, by the balls and threatening him with that power. I’m shocked and appalled even if it couldn’t have happened to a bigger asshole.

Edit: I realized this may actually be satire. I will keep this up for the time being but I understand I might have ate the Onion.

Sorry to say, it’s absolutely satire. Of the “We wish we were not-election-year onion, but we don’t have the skill to carry it off, so we try to trick people” type. And also they might be a bit shitty but I’m not really bothering to look deep enough to find out, but their about page throws a red flag or two.

This website is for entertainment purposes only. Please do not let your children use this site. If something in one of the stories you see here is not true, that would mean it’s fiction. You can still do that without censorship – create fiction. You may see satire and that’s okay, too. If this offends you, you may want to look at better ways to use your time than run-of-the-mill indignation. Your Chi will improve. This sentence legally follows the one preceding it.

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I just read this article on the racial divide in the South Bend Police Department during Buttigieg’s tenure as mayor. Boy howdy. How the fuck is he even still in the primaries?

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He’s a white man.

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Because he represents the right wing of the Democratic Party better than just about anyone else: Substanceless platitudes that make white liberals feel good, well connected and Harvard graduated with a bs military background and heavy connections to wealthy corporations with enough money to stay in long enough after everyone else peaked and crashed.

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I don’t like what Bloomberg is doing and how his wealth is making it possible. I don’t like that Buttigieg is climbing in polls, not fading away. This is at least a 2nd or 3rd order effect, but an additional way to consider the badness of these Republican-lite candidates is the backlash effect. That is, if they win will voters elect more Republicans to Congress and more likely elect a Republican President in 2024/2028 if one of these not very liberal Democrats get elected President? I’m thinking both from the seeming tick-tock behavior voters have exhibited in modern politics plus these dudes wouldn’t enact meaningful progressive changes that tangibly benefit the country so voters would say “see, they’re all the same and it doesn’t matter who is in the White House, so might as well give the Republicans another go”.

Also just chiming in to say that Obama had children in cages before Trump so this should be edited to say something about the Muslim Ban instead(yes I know Obama did a bunch of racist things to muslims too but not my post)

I have to dig around and find it but I remember reading an article about how left parties moving right to win and election has a downstream effect of destroying the party over time. It cited a few parties if I remember correctly but it took the Blairite Labor party as an example of how to win a couple of elections and absolutely destroy your base and ability to win over time.

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The exact items we want to list are not the point. Every president we’ve had so far is responsible for some kind of horrible atrocities. The point stands that Bloomberg is evil, I want him out of here, he’s an awful oligarch, but he’s still way way way better than Trump. It’s not a defense of Bloomberg or how good he is. It’s an indictment of how bad Trump is. He’s so bad that even Bloomberg is good by comparison.